Why TSM Chose to Start Spica the Week Before Playoffs – TSM: LEGENDS – S5E21
Why TSM Chose to Start Spica the Week Before Playoffs – TSM: LEGENDS – S5E21

So I first met Spica at scouting grounds in 2017 that was scouting grounds where it was Spica blabber ablaze all of a lot of the kind of players to be kind of seen now I was really impressed with the guy in terms of How good he was mechanically and how kind of immature he was and his approach to the game. And so Obviously he was still attending high school at the time so it was it makes sense for us to pursue him then but he’s someone that I’ve always kind of kept an eye on and So when he was available At the end of spring we were really really interested in picking him up And so I’m pretty excited to see what he does on LCS and his first playoffs My name is Ming Liu I go by the name speaka Well me Playing up a LCS was kind of a surprise It was late. I I still remember the night. I was late night. I got a message from par to say Hey, can we talk and then I didn’t know what part was gonna tell me because I was really nervous Like I was like am I in trouble or something got do something wrong and then two hours later car throws like come outside We’ll talk and that’s when he told me we might want you to play LCS chrome tomorrow and I was like, yeah sure. I’m down for When we went into this year we wanted to reframe how we wanted to run our organization For us Academy in the summer was really more about development rather than performance It was less relevant that we finished first seed or we did a well in playoffs and we were we wanted to focus more on Helping cave experience to as many young people as possible. Just why be brought in Johnson we brought in sword and That’s again. The reason why we decided to bench brandini his influence in the team wasn’t very positive and he was actually someone that a lot of our younger players looked up to and we are willing to kind of take the hit in terms of performance as long as practice and sort of the overall goals of academy to remain more development focused Overall, I’m really proud of Greg for kind of stepping up for that role leading into quarterfinals for Academy He only had a few days of practice, but you perform really well moving on to more serious matters Unfortunately, I think we ran into a lot of issues during the split in terms of Not even synergy with our junglers, but within each other Philosophically how we wanted to play the game? a lot of things that I expected to pop up in spring actually came about in the summer and so in the middle of split we decided okay, maybe it would help if we just Choose a jungler and then we kind of finish out the split there. So at least we would consolidate that part Unfortunately, as you guys have seen throughout the last few weeks we continue to have issues in terms of synergy playing the early game Despite us trying to figure out a jungler between Craig and Akkadian Going to be eight. It felt like we had no synergy with either of them and Speaker was training up pretty well in Academy So it made way more sense for our organization to try him out than continuing a process. That just wasn’t working. I think After watching him screaming for a few days all their staff unanimously agreed that we saw a lot of potential in him and it kind of changed our environment a lot in terms of working with Kind of a younger newer player who had a very different skillset and interact with us in a different way. I’m really happy that our Academy system had like gave him the progression to sort of improved throughout the split and I think he is ready for the LCS stage, obviously it’s not the most optimal decision for an order to bring in a new player week 9 getting into playoffs, but we think that Sort of the combination of Peters and Spica working together with the LCS team It’s gonna give us the best chance moving into playoffs and even Worlds Despite that we’re using the different persons for like early games specifically, I think that What we can focus on just the five or the four of us Is just making sure that whatever goals we have in mid game that we’re still just trying to hit those So for example like our mid game planning So trying to help speak along with like where he’s supposed to be is gonna be important I mean, it’s something that we said that we should start figuring out as a team anyway, so Let’s just make sure that you guys tried to carry him in that way. You guys are calling What our set up is going to be and from where he needs to play through so that we can move around the map The system were running from Academy analysis, it’s pretty similar I was at this point, so For us because meaning about we’re looking for Hollywood how you were some address your passing and Today Yeah See some legend some so let’s go Useless no one needs mad. That’s why we have an analyst So don’t the analysts need map, yeah No one needs Matt except for analysts on the entirely What about calculating spell damage on assassins just do it my feel bro, you just come feel the damage I no one will end up. No one want to rhyme it with everyone No one would actually be in everyone coping really if it was that 40 minute day, yeah. No I reacted nature must fight about Across from the man it’s gonna take your job Yeah As I take quality content great mom. He’s just choke hold up. So he choked everybody really Team damn team down He doesn’t like the camera he’s testing out Right where steal the dog? I can’t go his belly’s so big that’s what I Just saw animals Oh, good job good job Whoa you are Whoa, just threw that Believer back in here. Yeah And loses the Point I want to do solo Actually the calm before the fuckin storm Okay, yes This is last week before our house, I really don’t give a shit how we have done up until now, but I think Everyone feels it. I feel that at least I think this is our moment to finally be good again and Yeah have no words yeah, I just feel it and I want you guys to feel it okay Children Bob dude GZA Speaker is the third jungle. The TSN has had their starting lineup And they spent most of this split just looking for the right person for the jungle We win this first, okay. Yeah anybody know yeah Joe he’s moving read across show him. Okay? Yeah stimate so he’s moving. Oh Okay comics are you losing go on here we can if we break it’s really good It’s really good I’m gonna do cross Henry said okay top side boy. Sorry, I mean coming coming I eat use that four times one of the pitar place When it’s me Oh, sorry Flash oh I think I’m anything hello game. Yeah, it’s fine They used these all day get tools. They used Nautilus and 20. We need to go same side Coming around. Yeah, so I saw wash running a Start yeah Okay, look if we do get no results. Yeah, walk up here. Be speak up but a little bit look with me, okay? Okay, I have to talking here. I’m Cindy. I’m gonna go check it. I’m gonna go check. Okay. I’m on your boots me We can admit with your CP yeah. Look I’m Michaela SCA’s editor and look we’re sorry when she gnomes Let me go let me go Sonny. Oh, yeah, they just play slow Lexisnexis. Yeah, let’s hope it’s on have to play back. I got you. I got you. Okay Everybody’s low guys Novoflex on a place on comeback comeback guys come back come back. I Have to place off but Baron either way burning the way. Yeah, we got real. Hey so good. She’s got against other feminists focus Yeah. Yeah. I mean I can’t do anything. Okay. Yeah. Yeah all good It focused on girl. I’m just gonna flag I’m sitting here here Yeah, I’m gonna hit targets it. Okay. We’ve been Desmond aside, you know them killing for fun. Yeah. Hello for fun. Katie a oh wait Walter’s gonna kill everyone Phillip Oh Nexus Let’s go. Oh, okay Speak up first five minutes of a game you steal their blooper to end the game you steal Baron. Are you kidding me? Tell me about this game your first game and Fog TSM I was a little bit nervous coming to the game since we only have two and a half days to practice I think it was a lot easier since Peter was there helping me. He was my Academy coach and now he’s a healthy LCS So this transition transition was a lot easier than I expected What’s it like working with him as a coach since you know better than probably the main team right now Um Peter is a great coach. He taught me a lot about how to jungle and I think He’s the one that allowed me to Play as good as I can today, and let’s talk about Academy because before coming in here You’ve swept Team Liquid Academy three Oh in quarterfinals of the Academy championship series tell me about that Tell me about your success in Academy and how it translate to LCS I think one big factor for the quarterfinals was the fact I had AI playing in the LCS scrims and learned a lot more playing With these great players like Pierre since then they taught me a lot about the game and that’s how I was able to arm swept teal And tomorrow you actually have Team Liquid the main roster as your opponent So are you gonna sweep him like you did TLA or are you ready for that game? I hope it’s gonna be a 4-0 There I like the confidence pika, thank you and congratulations again back to the State Farm analyst desk I know what you guys look like kill husband Oh, yeah, I think we could all split team husband like star with Israel and Sudan. Yeah didn’t have a couple of times yeah, I think but Yeah Sometimes are thinking every fight their tanks are running it down And if you just kill them you’re gonna pop your has it been one second model assisted wanting or flashing everything Yeah, you try to go on as well. Yeah, and I’m just hitting them I think if you kill them, we wouldn’t every fight like – 0 or something like that I Think I lastly I see the same scenes. It’s gonna be the final test before we go to the payout What do we are right now? How we can play the game and is thinking about a mirror? it can be a great challenge of for us tomorrow against yeah, and Just some mystical we made and definitely speak. I was talking about this what every individual mistake or the making we can place three days But although I think it’s a fun game for us to look at a community last week We’re gonna go back to the box review later and do the draft meetings Hope the power was do you think so? It’s about tomorrow Okay, if we can finish the last week was to 0 meeting tal and the end of the day It would be very viewed motovun and a lot of energy for us going in the playoffs Okay, we’re still on the right track. And this what we’re doing the past two weeks is worse and I can see the improvement worth Yeah, not worse Oh, where are you gonna be the fence meeting the fans? That’s the biggest fan I’m sure I love the person said such a horrible joke Colbert in your personal I got a bless you break increase my smiting ability actually Yeah, you left it I was like what I mean he knew ya can’t even he guess he hasn’t it just seems impossible Like it means less now so or yeah at least one so we’re good Yes Oh, it’s a glacial cop actually mr. Cozzi What’s the wish will come and all right guys, let’s fuck again Are we gonna be okay at our ramp up against this? Not sure we’re fighting were fighting With we’ll walk there top laner bear come outside Man and smoothie once again gonna be in some trouble bumping away the CC spider-man style It’s still gonna be brought down Xfinity tanking up the turret stuff Double kill a bit of TSM 80 carry a core JJ will buy just a little bit more time with the stop Got the kill he should end up paying for this one Jensen needs a little bit more time. He Barely fall. Oh my goodness. I love that. He didn’t run away though went for the Watch lead if he wants to be all they’re coming from Traverse. We can see it coming babies in it like all the burgers I’m boasting as well – well – 105 Oliveira I’m not volibear About a Mango bear so this is Novas fighting we gotta here look here. Look here. Look. Yeah. Yeah look at us. No – it’s not sunny. Ash. Yeah hazards eyebrow volt Oh suck it up. See I’m dead Fucking I’m really useless. Yeah Beth take them down. No problem. They’re still five seconds left before anybody from TSM is alive and Team Liquid and what a most entertaining games of the split will take down TSM So, what do you guys think of it they obviously didn’t go for our arms and try our pics on it. Yeah Yeah Yeah, I mean I don’t play a tiff tee but I know they pick some glacial team comp or something like that So when I when we realized that they did it. I was just like fuck it. Let’s displays that because I Don’t think there’s much more to enough fully charting and giving you away a lot of information outside of anything We pick to sejuani severe Nautilus which is just really standard champions to play. So BIPV I kind of got the free range to pick What we wanted even though we’re obviously still playing to win, but perhaps not trying our hardest in the draft then I Don’t think I played particularly well, but I’m glad that I got to place it and we got to play at this game I think the game was here for a while, but they just kind of ran over us after 18 minutes or something like that it they just stalled really fast all of a sudden and we could really find a lot of good place to make and Volibear kind of just became a really big beast the host particle and they didn’t have a lot of Champions that I could assassinate because it’s so many big fat tanks So after not getting much out of our champs in the early game like said in Silas We just weren’t able to team fight against them and kind of just roll over I know a lot of people were speculating whether Speak I was just in there for week nine But I am pretty happy to and excited to announce that he will be playing For us in the summer playoffs as an organization. We take all of our roster decisions very seriously, and we genuinely believe that Despite the awkward timing. This is the best roster possible for us to succeed a playoffs The reason we didn’t choose Acadian or grig as one of our subs going into playoffs is because we’re founded in the direction that our team is moving with Spica And we don’t see a situation where they would need to be subbed in during playoffs. I Think going to playoffs. We definitely have a lot of work to do Since I just came in at week 9 we obviously have a lot of things to just build up and building synergies and such I don’t think it will be easy, but we’re working very hard to improve the whole team play and I think with every day or with every practice every scrum day will get better and then We’ll be ready

100 thoughts on “Why TSM Chose to Start Spica the Week Before Playoffs – TSM: LEGENDS – S5E21”

  1. Zibo Wang says:

    Edit: why we choose to lose our quarter final match

  2. alex lee says:

    great job letting your fans down yet again …

  3. someoneonlylol says:

    I dont understand how tsm can get peter and zikz and replace junglers but still play like that :/

  4. Ajwadd Anwarr says:

    Wtf would you sub in a academy player whose never played at the lcs during a split?

  5. Astronomical Pot a toe says:

    Well tsm definitely will not be showing the other teams what there picks are cause they wont go to semis

  6. Jonas Halbe says:

    Best decision for playoffs and now they are out. 🙂

  7. Matthew Nguyen says:

    TSM used to be good…. what happen to this team…. Wish they just kept dyrus, and fix everything else

  8. Afrosss says:

    that anime opening was pretty fire not gonna lie

  9. Rashed ALABHOUL says:

    because you are stupid that's why

  10. James Tang says:

    Im not gonna watch this trash vid, can someone please summarize what happened to akadian and grig?

  11. FL FleXx says:

    Not even fun rooting for these guys anymore tbh

  12. Meno says:

    Gr8 choice! I love the idea of changing the jungler every other week ! It's not like jungler needs to have a good understanding of the way lanes play, good communication thrue out the game but especially in early to multiply leads lane make, coordinate objectives, control vision and few other things that I quess don't matter. I loved TSM since worlds season 2 when I started playing league and for the first time I'm so frustrated with the decisions make.

  13. MrKriselt says:

    Lmao this video didnt age well. In a span of 24h …

  14. Dave Davidson says:

    Not a TSM fan but Parth really should go. In any other job a GM who fails as much as he had would be gone.

  15. Local Buddah says:

    Lmao it’s great to take a glimpse at this organization after I finished following them in 2017 . TSM fell off so hard

  16. 12InchesUnBuffed says:


  17. Moritz Wolf says:

    Zven just looks and sounds defeated. It‘s almost like he is afraid to go back on stage because he knows he is going to mess it up again…

  18. DEVIL DIO says:

    3-1 Lul
    didn't age well

  19. Raphael Okoye says:

    Look at me im tsm and play my rookie jungler with only 2 lcs games into playoffs what could go wrong? 😂😂😂

  20. Edge of Night says:

    nxt vid exit spica

  21. UncleMaksRed says:

    And I'm sitting here right after the CG defeat…I doubt TSM will make it to Worlds.

  22. Zhufu Edits says:

    loooool TSM doesn't deserve to make worlds they do too much dumb shit

  23. Likun Jian says:

    They chose him because he has Air Pods

  24. unknow318 says:

    Feel bad for him going to such a bad team

  25. trisgaming says:

    next episode
    why putting in spica was a mistake (what went wrong) !?!?!?!?!?!

  26. r Louis says:

    Next Episode: Thank You TSM

  27. Kuo Lee says:

    Next episode: Why TSM will no longer be working with bjergsen
    Cockblocked by CG two years in a row xd

  28. kroghlarsenp says:

    15:48 PepeLaugh OH NO NO NO

  29. Zaya .45 says:

    TSM just loves losing games.

  30. soryır Kılınç says:

    kick jung and adc pls Tsm I m not proud of you this time

  31. Ajwadd Anwarr says:

    Next Episode:

    Thank you Spica

  32. Sky Waterer says:

    23:40 ahahahha nice try youre not fooling anyone

  33. Alfred Carlsson says:

    Anyone else feeling an extremely awkward tension between the players and the staff?

  34. Alfred Carlsson says:

    Also Zven looks really miserable all the time, he will prob leave

  35. Dee Roberts says:

    "We don't see a situation where we'd need to sub in Akaadian during playoffs"

  36. Damiän Van Berkel says:

    Next episode "thank you Zven, Spica and Smoothie" Its 2017 all over again but without the trophy

  37. Mark Stewart says:

    Because TSM enjoys the rhetoric of consistently letting fans down year after year? Probably.

  38. seamus rainey says:

    That feel when the real problem with TSM is zven inting in every crucial moment of every game that matters but you just dont want to accept it so you replace your jungler every 3 weeks.

  39. Sinan Demir says:

    Just bring THEODDONE back ?

  40. Yongmin Kong says:

    Next Episode:

    Why TSM Chose to rebuild.

  41. James C says:

    TSM; why we cant manage a team to save our lives

  42. Sr3cko says:

    It was the worst decision to swap spica with akaadian… Spica is kinda a SoloQ player. He is so freaking greedy and cocky… lmao

  43. mõmzel says:

    JUST PLEASE, who gives a damn what he was, toxic or na, HE IS A BEAST, you have money, acquire Dardoch, PLEASE

  44. Ratzu Namikaze says:

    I can understand starting him, but not bringing a sub seems very cocky and reckless. This is why I stopped being a TSM fan long ago. It is not your rosters, it is the fact you make risky decisions like this instead of logical ones. There is 0 logic behind not bringing a sub, when spica has 0 playoff experience. I am not saying spica is bad, but Grig and Akkadian probably would not have had cs deposits every game due to pathing. You take a roster that got to finals and almost won the whole thing, and at the last minute make a change that leads you to not even getting out of quarter finals. Losing 2-3 to TL who beat IG and made it to MSI finals, is better than losing to CG 1-3. What do I know though? Coaching staff seems a bit over cocky for no reason is all I am saying.

  45. AsriaY CS says:

    LOL "Best Roster possible to succeed in playoffs". Gets instantly eliminated in almost a 3-0

  46. Thanh doan says:

    Lmfao putting a Academy player into semifinals. Gj 1-3 btw.

  47. Rey says:

    When will they see they need to try a new mid laner? Bjerg is the Allen Iverson of the LCS, and TSM needs a Lebron James. Bjerg die hard fans will never admit how many tools Bjerg has been given. He's been given enough chances. Time for a new mid laner.

  48. Solomon says:

    Not a jungler problem. Nice job in playoffs scrubs

  49. Snow Ghost says:

    Whoops looks like Akaadian was the correct choice

  50. Lavenza says:

    Next Episode: Thank You Bjergsen!

  51. Carlos Carvalho says:

    Is this a TSM Anime?

  52. see qinfa says:

    This video did not age well

  53. Sai Siddula says:

    I hope it was just playoff nerves and he plays better and we win more! As of now, I'm not happy with Akaadian but he played better than that. Honestly why not change coaching? SKT was also like TSM until Kkoma took over the picks/bans again this split. TSM's picks are interesting…

  54. Alexander Vetter says:

    I mean grig was way better than akaadian the synergie between him and the team was so much better idk why they just kept playing with him

  55. ARandomGuy says:

    This video did not age well.

  56. Jean .valjean says:

    Next episode why we got rid of another jungler and chose to use the team dog as our new One

  57. Brian Kim says:

    TSM management is a joke lmao. Y’all always blame your jungled and ruin their own teams synergy every single split. So glad to see tsm is digging their own grave

  58. Ian Leitch says:

    TSM has such a frat house mentality which is NOT good for teamwork…everyone is always just trying to be cooler than the other person and basically just trying to not be the worst player on the team…pretty ironic that Akkadian was the one to be treated so poorly and kicked considering he "looks" the most fratty. After this season, idk ANY top rate jungler that would want to jungle for this toxic environment team.

  59. Trollripper says:

    Dumbest move in 2019

  60. Alberto Torres Cabezos says:

    To lose

  61. - - says:

    Crazy how loads of people (including me) saw TSM as better than TL last split even after their loss in finals. But find themselves here after everything. Really saddening to watch. I loved watching this roster perform.

    Do they go gauntlet now? Maybe they’ll shape up but who really knows.

  62. SuperFUNKMASTERG says:

    Tsm should just sell the league team this is a joke

  63. Zarrakon says:

    Spica turned out to be clutch gaming's MVP so it works

  64. Shadowd4rkness says:

    Next episode. Exit spica

  65. Will Young says:

    Lol zickx isn't even really the coach I love the breakdown is this team

  66. Gyro says:


    T: True

    S: Sexy

    M: Mommy

  67. arbyssauce says:

    Next episode: Why Bjergsen is leaving TSM.

  68. DAB says:

    I thought Akaadian was sick? TSM org is harsh.

  69. x says:

    11:50 lustcena smiling becus he knows the camera can see his hard nipple

  70. Mr. S308 says:

    Parth is the dumbest motherfucker ever hahahaha, he is the one that needs to get kicked. basically a Yes man to Regi that's the dude's job

  71. Yoboseo says:

    Next episode team psychologist replaced by Team Dog. You get benched. You get benched. Everyone gets benched……Tahm your in

  72. Musa Fatih Çağlar says:

    He didnt fit the team. Wrong choice i think. He need more time, but tsm not.

  73. Nicholas Khami says:

    How tf do they not interview Akkadian at all in this?!?

  74. Zeke Hernandez says:

    LMAOO freesm

  75. Rudy DS says:

    Parth is bad at his job. Don’t @ me

  76. Ben S. Weston says:

    CG the bane of TSM confirmed

  77. Bry An says:


  78. IanMerete says:

    not saying spica was bad for week 9 or for playoffs, but the choice to constantly change between the 3 jgs, they ruined their synergy through out this whole split and that's why the last few weeks coming to playoffs and then the defeat to CG was very frustrating to watch. We don't see everything so I don't know what led to the decision to switch from Akaadian to Spica, but not being able to stick to one solid jg really hurt this roster.

  79. Ralph Pena says:

    This is why TSM picked spica……because VIPER misplayed the baron fight and let him smite it……

  80. Austin Newhart says:


  81. ScottyLawless says:

    "we wanted to lose in as humiliating a fashion as possible"

  82. Francisco Rendon says:

    Zven needs to reset on another team. He’s still good but one of TSM’s greatest strengths has always been its the ability to stay tilt proof and come back in playoffs. His body language and comments indicate he gets tilted when things arent going well

  83. Justin Liu says:

    I miss the doublelift, biofrost, bjergson, sven and hauntzer TSM team. The variations after doesn't feel family-like at all.

  84. Josker says:

    good management

  85. Dorimi Prism says:

    It's sad to see Bjergsen rot away in TSM instead of signing up with a real team.

  86. Jason Yu says:

    release berj it painful to see him lose after tsm decision to the roster change that cost them many times.

  87. zoekwon says:

    sometimes u have to trust your players. u cant just put jg player who they played with for like 2-3 weeks. they built synergy throughout the whole season. playoff semi synergy was horrible. spica went in 1 vs 3 as jarven and i was like WTF.

  88. Clayton Fight Club says:

    i dont htink zven is a bad player but TSM coaches need to have a serious talk about how much he gets caught out

  89. Jean-Luke Fevriere says:

    Why TSM Chose to Auto Lose The Week Before Playoffs – seems like a more appropriate title

  90. jason miller says:

    I think tsm are going to try hard in a less try hard meta and stop changing lineup that is why you guys used to be good cause you guys stood together it just pains me to see what the org has become reggie. Im disappointed for sure and know you can do better for the players.

  91. D4rk Skys says:

    Your ass faze up

  92. Luvin Ragoo says:

    Parth is delusional…you didn’t make through play offs dude. Your strategy failed

  93. PROJECT Martin says:

    FREESM is back

  94. ssjbardock79 says:

    Hopefully the next episode and the seasons following it are without parth. Imagine having good management and a good Botlane. SPICA IS NOT THE ANSWER. you guys should have signed rush. Ditch zven and smoothie and pickup a real botlane.

  95. Domenico Elio Bressanello says:

    You might want to take this video down you absolute scum of an organization.

    "We felt like we had no sinergy with either" ! no shit! you never gave either of them the safety of knowing they would be in the team giving them a chance to express their skill.
    Any mistake you would sub and swap so how is someone supposed to even build his sinergy when they don't even know if they'll play.
    You are an absolute joke of an Organization.
    How about instead of subbing out jungle every game you sub out your top when BrokenBlade was playing like shit? How about subbing out Zven who trolled almost every game this split? Hell if you have to be fair, why not sub Bjerg when he consistently underperforms?

    You guys are a joke.

  96. Ma Ly says:

    Dose TSM stand for three sus man

  97. dumbo chiki says:

    apparently beacuse ur trying to not go to worlds 2 years in a row

  98. lostn65 says:

    I like this Spica kid. He's so cute. He's happy go lucky. Has anime hair, and a positive attitude.

    But I do feel bad for the other two junglers. They both showed promise at one stage, but like all TSM junglers, they eventually get thrown under a bus.

    Has Peter taken over primary coaching duties from Zikz?

  99. SnabCakes says:

    Well they got fked because of it

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